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Psycho Betting and Stats 301-Degenalytics Question
!!!!DISCLAIMER:!!!! Before you even start watching this for entertainment and see if you get offended by this un-P.C. content. Don't be a pussy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igsb3ejgbL8 If you can't handle it, leave this thread. If you can, then you may proceed to the next level. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 📰📜Story📜📰: I've been scatter-brained, ire-filled, soul-searching and lost after a 7-day Degen Marathon that brought a shit load of misfortunes. I used to hate social media, but I've learned how to wield the soc. med. sword like a fucking Degen Jedi. I'm going to promote an honest cause where I seek to be victorious in the end. Just you watch you fucking doubters, haters, blockers, scammers. How much grit and intellect would the average fucking person have to endure what I've gone through in the last fucking 48 hours and still come out alive with a sense of greater purpose? Had about $400 to $500 in righteously earned bonus dollars earned through impossible grinding degen mission that came pretty close to accomplishing (91%). I would have had some imaginary >$600 BR by now, but instead the roll-over deadline caused the entire deposit to be forfeited and I manage to salvage some $100. Due to a bonus rollover scheme, 80U of my balance was stuck in bonuses and if I fail to accomplish the roll-over by the deadline, it all gets forfeited. With a $500-$600 balance, I could have somewhere at $900-1000 by now after a 20-2 W-L record on European football on Wednesday. How did I get that record yesterday, by sampling a bunch of solid pre-game picks and live betting using my own fucking brain. I consult with the finest in capping. With $10-$20 bet sizes, That would have put me up maybe $15x16 = +$240 at minimum. $1000 was the imaginary bank roll. As of today, betting with $1 units, after Monday-Wednesday's successful run, while Tuesday was a -$50 blip, I converted $100 to about close to $200 (40U). 🤪🤑Psycho Betting🤑🤪: I learned the art of psycho betting. Taking some well-advised 10U and 30U psycho bets that put my bankroll up a significant amounts, but a big loss does the opposite. Yesterday I manage to hit 4 grand 30U slams in a row, however many on juiced lines, so each $30 bet one returns about $15-20. Thus my bankroll grew nearly +100 units and sits close to $200 from the initial $100 I manage to salvage after that bonus robbery. If you want to fucking learn the art of Psycho-Betting to the extremest and be successful at it, fucking put in $100 in Bovada (remember to use money that you can afford to lose) and get that fucking bonus for the purpose of looting the bookies in a successful vengeance scheme. This guy is a fucking Artillery: https://twitter.com/GoTimeCappers. Fucking hit more than 4x30U grand slams yesterday and some 10-20U cherries on top. I tailed his free picks and other through consultation [Haha fucking reddit/sportsbook will probably ban me for promoting another tout, :)].Of course with my $1.5U size on a crippled bank roll, I cannot grow it to as much as I wanted to using GoTime's techniques. I would have been at another +$400 if I had $6 units. It's a high risk and high reward system, but if you are confident with your picks you go big on it. If you lose it, then you grind back with smaller 10U and 20U bets to try to get back to part to be able to do another 30U bet. The goal is to be like 2-1, 3-0 on 30U grand slams a day. There is some level of sustainability and back up plans to execute in case the 30U bet did not work out. It is very improbable for you to lose 10 in a row on well researched picks that the experts in the community have common agreement on. A lot of the times, the lines shift to reward you less for the pick since big money is already on the pick. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- !!!!!DISCLAIMER: DO NOT READ BEYOND HERE IF YOU HATE MATH OR HAVE AN IQ OF < 89!!!!! Use the chart on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification Here is a Nice Calculation to do: 📚📑💻Stats 301 Question in Degenalytics💻📑📚**:** Lastly I asked anyone in the past few days to do a Stats 301 question with Degenalytics Context: To fucking determine the probability that an avg Joe with a $100+100 Bonus Bank-roll or $500 + 250B bank roll can actually pull off the $3000/$7500 grind in some number of N months betting with supposedly 2 full months of real sports (N-2) getting Obliterated by COVID-19. I want you to give me an analytical calculation or a simulation of your work and give me all the possible scenarios. Then give the final verdict of if that number converges to 0.000% or 100.00% that the average Joe would succeed his false-hope mission for a successful rollover. In other words think of it like this: If the average joe bets his entire bank roll 12 or more times (roll-over is not x10 because of bookie juice), what is the probability that he will still end up in the green? Also assign a tilt probability factor that the Average Joe would go on some emotional tilt spree to end up bust again? And make it even harder by eliminating 2-3 full months of real sports (N-2.5) and having to bet on Bovada's limited shitty ass lines and shitty live odds. If you fucking want to eliminate the -2.5 months, then allow the average joe the freedom to bet on N months of e-sports [hahah] and see where that goes. I had a bad experience betting on e-sports for 2 months and only end up -15-20U. I'm not saying that I lost because I suck at e-sports betting or I tailed the wrong people. The Bovada lines are super shitty and limited. Most of the time, on live esports, all you see are dashed out lines as if they fucking know what the rigged result is and prevent people from doing hedge bets or try to bet opposite spreads when they are winning to guarantee an insurance 1-1 with minimal damage incurred to their bank-roll. The live betting experience on e-sports on the Bovada platform is so bad that you are guaranteed to lose in the long run. Fucking hell Bodog/Bovada even offered me a $250 deposit on 100% bonus after the Rudy Gobert day in Mid March. They advertised the joys and wonders of getting rich betting off esports. I was so tempted to deposit, however I kind of over-slept and missed out on the dead-line so they closed the bonus offer. Pretty good relief that I did not fuck-up my real credit card and bank account by falling for that scam again. It was an accidental Grace of God moment to fucking avoid that E-sports deposit marketing scam. BONUS Questions: A: Calculate the number of months needed and number of successful bets required for the conservative degen 1u bettor to grind out the roll-over playing $2.00 tug of war with the bookie. B: Calculate the odds that a professional capper who knows how to adjust unit sizes (1u-5u), do parlays once a while, will succeed the roll-over in some N-2.5 months or add some e-sports to have fun to keep the N factor. C.1: Calculate the conditional probabilities for the bettor succeeding in the mission if on the first few days of betting: i) He loses bet 1 for about $20. ii) Wins bet 1 for about $20 to earn $17.5. iii) Goes on a 3 game losing streak iv) 5 game losing streak v) Positivity case: The guy got lucky and nearly doubled his bank roll on a decent run from day. Up +100U or $200. [I'm sure that out of bad discipline the average Joe would still go -200U in the long run with a pretty high probability.] C.2: Determine the mathematical scheme on how the Bookies can use your first few losses to eventually put you in a 60+:40- (Greater than 60% locked in bonus, less than 40% of your deposited money). Bonus:Locked funds ratio. The Jinx-King answer: It converges to zero [hahaha], but I really am interested in know what other scenarios math and stats people have come up. And your mathematical approaches and formulae used to generate possible scenarios and probabilities. But I think it is safe to say that for the average Joe,the answer is 0.00% success rate. Bodog/Bovada knows this exactly and refuses to put a hiatus on the roll-over deadline. Instead they keep it going so that people can try to wager on e-sports and lose their entire bank roll. They are only interested it getting 100% of your locked funds so that they can buy expensive cruises, yachts, beach mansions, resort packages, etc in Aruba or some other tropical place. Where you got millions of desperate Americans, Canadians in struggling economies with lost jobs and zero positive cash-flow. About 10% or so or perhaps even more deposit money into off-shore gambling websites hoping they can roll-over their bank-roll some ridiculous number of times and make a few bucks to put food on the table. In fact, it makes matters worst being jobless, having zero cash flow and having locked funds in scamming bookies. If you are not good at casino or sports-betting games, you would have: A: Lose your entire deposit for failing to grind it out properly. B: Not grind it out on time on whatever dead-line the roll-over was. C: Even if you did successfully grind that shit out using conservative 1u betting and play $2 tug of war with the bookie, you will end up just wasting your time grinding it out for hours and hours on end. It would have been better for you to fucking find a job at some farm helping out with harvesting crops or work in meat plants so that food does not go to waste. I bet you I can make more money than your $2 tug of war in one a day picking off cans and bottles off the streets in some exercise walking/running/biking + collection routine then selling it to the recycling center for $0.05-0.25 a unit. Trust me at my university, I spot maybe about 50-200 empty/partially driven cans and bottles left on desks, lecture halls, the floor, libraries, work areas, etc. Supposed that I harvested that shit, I would be making $5-$20 a day collecting it all and going to the recycling center once every week. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ⚖Conclusions⚖: The fucking company knows this COVID-19 closure shit and want to use it to their advantage to continue to rob millions of their customers. Last week, I tried to call customer service, chat help, email, etc. and management has spoken to plead my case to delay the roll-over dead-line in a pro-rated time frame so that customers with locked balances can resume betting with their full balance when Game 1 of any Major League Sport actually returns. They give me the same bull-shit over and over saying they decline my request. For what reason?
The terms and conditions written in fine print for accepting the bonus conversion challenge. "Rules are Rules."
They were aware my deadline of June 22 at 19:23 ET was approaching soon. They knew I was on a mission to salvage my bank roll before they yank out the 60-75U trapped in bonus balances (i.e. Ghost money). By the end of it, I realize I made a foolish mistake. Most of my wins were just from bonus money and I was rewarded $0.00 on righteous wins on expired bonuses.
Therefore Bonus money only earns bonus money which put my entire bank-roll in a 80:20 ratio where the bookies control 80U in ghost money. By the end of the roll-over deadline, they get to yank out 80U of my balance at the deadline and left me with about $100 (20U) bank roll to regrind.
They knew I was winning consistently making solid picks.
During my 110 hour marathon over the brutal grind of losing more than 70 hours of work, leisure and recreation; 35 hours of sleep; to a fucking impossible grind of trying to roll over some 60% of $7500 on sports I have little knowledge of capping (i.e. E-sports, Table Tennis, European football) after a few days of studying the game, I was picking up my stride to grind it to 91%. They fucking knew that if I had another day to grind, they would be coughing up +$600-800 of withdrawable balance to my account. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bio:😎📚🎓👨🎓 I am a Fucking PHD Candidate (2-6 months from graduating and not having to pay another round of BS tuition) who does a shitload of mathematics, statistics, simulations, mathematical physics, wrote scientific papers. I've won T.A. Awards, Government/Provincial/Institutional level scholarships, Conference presentations, with even Undergrad honors back in the day. DM me if you need a fucking CV to prove my fucking credentials. Why am I able to write a lot of shit? Because my fucking brain operates on some max level Intel Xeon chip on overclock mode and I cannot do much to shut it down other than going to sleep. They only way is to write articles that I think might benefit the community. I have a crazy interest in sports and Degen'ing. I love to fucking put action on sports games, be proud about making the correct calls on the outcome of games before it happens, and then boast to my circle of competitive friends about who's the fucking Boss. As tabboo as society think us degens are, I think this absolute BS. There is a pure enjoyment in watching sports and having action on it. It is nice to get paid beer money to cover a round for your buddies, or earn that rent money over a successful night of betting on shit you actually enjoy watching. Fuck I rather make $300 for one evening of enjoying sports rather than working a 9-5 dull job to try to afford rent/mortgage. If I can fucking pay off all my monthly expenses in 3 fucking successful nights of 3 hr sessions of sports matches, that would be ideal. I would take the lather over a 9-5 rat-race grind. Overall I am "PRO" in the debate for local single sports betting bookies to be established in Canada. Get these fucking scamming off-shore books like bodog/Bovada who contribute only contribute "Bagel" to the Canadian Economy, but instead make it worst by scamming the masses of hard working or desperate people to leak out some sum of billions of dollars of national GDP. Probably the same applies to all American States, that people should not have to cough up their hard earned $$$$ to off-shore scamming bookies. I shall write an article about this later to justify my arguments later. Ultimately I my goal is to obliterate or negate the influence of all the cons, scamming bookies, and false touts out there who are just interested in stealing people's $$$. To write out full studies on exposing their schemes in an objective lens. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Calling me out:(Think I cannot track these pussy downvotes? I know you cowards 😂😜😎) If you think I'm full of BS, then send me a personal DM to have a 1v1 argument the same way that Stephen A debates sports with Max Kellerman. You can downvote me or flame me with empty hate talk all you want on public threads. But don't be a fucky pussy by avoiding a debate with me. Trust me, I'm going to win and be the last one to state a real point that you will have no comeback for [haha]. Lastly, if you are open to discuss or debate with me about some issues, do some resarch/exploration, betting strategies, etc., I would love your collaboration in some projects I got going on. Ultimately, I should help every honest worker strive towards Degen success or if not, just to purely enjoy putting action on sports games. If you are too full of yourself, then you are on your own, I bid thee adieu, and wish you all the best. However you will be absolutely declined to all services and counsel I work to provide to friends for free. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Social Media📺🎬 Some extra Resource to how I got to this point in my mission. Here it is for starters: June 23, 2020: The Impossible Pursuit Reddit/sportsbook/Brag and Bitch (Tuesday) June 24, 2020: Doubling Bank roll and rewarded Bagel: Reddit/sportsbook/Brag and Bitch (Wednesday) June 24, 2020: How can you win 5 in a row and lose it all simultaneously? Reddit/sportsbook/What is your most impressive win? Full Twiiter: https://twitter.com/jinxking0p5 All my media: https://twitter.com/jinxking0p5/media Discord: ????? To be solved. Challenges: Got a few right in progress now and a couple of drafts I am working on. The Jinxking Crusade (In progress): https://twitter.com/jinxking0p5/status/1275516258822131714?s=20 Turns out many people cannot withdraw anything out of Bovada/bodog due to some website glitches. Will try to recover a bankroll to attempt a withdrawal, however I am likely to have the same issues too. They will make some lame excuse to not give me a cheque. Definitely no point of pursuing anything in bovada/bodog if they refuse to give you withdrawables. The goal is to get their website off outta here. As well as get them out of advertisements. They definitely pulled off some "Get the fucking money and run scheme" and you will likely not see your money again. GG The Jinxking Challenge (In progress): https://twitter.com/jinxking0p5/status/1275661929940467713?s=20 Want to expose a bad tout who over prices the service and has a mediocre record? Tail and fade to call their their BS or mediocre non profiting record out. Also good for finding legitimate winners too. This will be a mission to expose shitty touts on Twitter the way Penn & Teller exposes BS in the market.
Hi! I'm looking for some ideas on what island/resorts would be the best fit for my fiancé and myself. Date range: April or May 2020 Budget: Flexible, preferably not wildly expensive as we're both generally frugal, however I'd expect to receive some help though the registry, I'd ballpark 5k max but if I'm horribly misinformed about typical price ranges I'm flexible enough to make things work. Knowing us we'd probably prefer a resort. Hopefully one that isn't crowded to capacity but I'm aware that a resort may have a larger population than other places. I expect the majority of the trip to be relaxing on the beach/enjoying a poolside bar, with a couple planned events thrown in like fishing, scuba diving, a casual tour or activity that would be common for the area, and some romantic date activities. We're pretty laid back and probably won't do higher energy activities like hiking. Any recommendations would be amazing, let me know if I should provide more info as well. Thanks!
Hi all, my girlfriend and I are going to Aruba from August 25-Sept 3. We're on a budget so hoping to find a cheaper but still nice hotel. The two we have found that look good and are around our range (200CAD a night or so) are "Divi Village Golf & Beach Resort, Oranjestad" and "Eagle Aruba Resort & Casino, Oranjestad". I was hoping some people may have stayed in either of these before? Any thoughts or recommendations would be very appreciated. We are also definitely open to other options if anyone has any recommendations, but those two are the best I've found so far. Both show concerns on Tripadvisor reviews but nothing seems to be too major and are both roughly rated 4/5. As an aside, both also seem to be timeshare properties. Will I have any issues if we have no interest in getting involved in a timeshare? Thanks!
[CLAIM] The Netherlands - Caribbean Constituents (Aruba, Curaçao, St. Maarten)
Because I got kicked to the curb by Gaius after she abandoned me (much like my father), I've had a recent flair-up of Stockholm Syndrome and have as such decided to follow her on her most recent adventure to the Netherlands. I'll be taking the reigns of the Caribbean constituent nations of the Kingdom of the Netherlands- namely Aruba, Curacao and St. Maarten- while Gaius controls the Netherlands proper and the directly administered islands in the Caribbean. As these shitty islands, I plan to:
Encourage alternate forms of transport by importing the Dutch love of biking and walking
Make the islands entirely renewable by constructing new wind and tide power plants
Crank tourism up to 11 by building new beaches, legalizing prostitution, new resorts, and a dedicated state-owned corporation for said resorts/casinos/whatever else
Work on improving inter connectivity between the 3 constituent nations and the Dutch Caribbean proper through dedicated ferries/flights
Open a new university to serve all the constituents in one spot instead of a variety of pre-existing universities
Improve business, infrastructure and investing in the islands
Try to reduce the prevalence of the creoles and promote the Dutch language, for a variety of reasons
Serenity, scuba, sports activities and sensational food-the insanely gorgeous Caribbean isles hardly miss out on anything to welcome their guests! Whether you are a bask-in-the-white-beach-sun kind of a traveller, or someone seeking some spine-tickling biking and diving activities; whether you wander for food, or simply to escape your tedious monotony- there is something for every type in the Caribbean. Choose the secluded beaches if you are looking for quiet and calm escape or try the more popular ones to bask under the glimmering sun with fellow travellers. Your options for an ideal vacation will surely outrun the length of your holiday!So, if you are already jumping on your couch with excitement, buckle up! We bring you the top 7 Caribbean Islands that you need to consider for your next travel plan:
This predominantly English speaking, neat and clean medium sized atoll is perched on the edge of the Atlantic. Unarguably the most multi-faceted Caribbean isle, Barbados is a hot favourite among Americans. Offering a multitude of accommodations and activities, it caters to all kinds of pocket sizes, diverse landscapes and cultural scenarios. Stroll around the vibrant city of Bridgetown or unwind the Harrison’s cave, the interiors of the island are as intriguing as the surrounding, quiet areas that offer sandy beaches, verdant golf courses and palatial resorts. Dance to the thrum of a Calypso song or indulge in the party-loving culture, Barbados is equal parts sporty and revelling. This one’s an absolute no-brainer. An endless ribbon of beaches frilled with the top-notch resorts that flaunt malls, family eateries and bars in the back yard define all things Aruban! With a wide assortment of casinos and nightclubs that parallelly cater to kids-friendly accommodations, Aruba qualifies to be the best Caribbean Island for all kinds of tourist-groups. Less forest-like and more on the desert side, this isle has an offbeat appearance compared to its other Caribbean counterparts. The Arikok National Park, covering almost 20% of the atoll’s landscape, offers lovely cacti-filled scenes to be unravelled. Lying outside the region’s hurricane belt, Aruba is equal parts safe and fun. The isle’s main town Oranjestad is chockfull with shops, landmarks and pastel landscapes, perfectly circumscribed in the quaint and gorgeous, and secluded beaches around.
This one’s an absolute no-brainer. An endless ribbon of beaches frilled with the top-notch resorts that flaunt malls, family eateries and bars in the back yard define all things Aruban! With a wide assortment of casinos and nightclubs that parallelly cater to kids-friendly accommodations, Aruba qualifies to be the best Caribbean Island for all kinds of tourist-groups. Less forest-like and more on the desert side, this isle has an offbeat appearance compared to its other Caribbean counterparts. The Arikok National Park, covering almost 20% of the atoll’s landscape, offers lovely cacti-filled scenes to be unravelled. Lying outside the region’s hurricane belt, Aruba is equal parts safe and fun. The isle’s main town Oranjestad is chockfull with shops, landmarks and pastel landscapes, perfectly circumscribed in the quaint and gorgeous, and secluded beaches around.
I’ve never done this before but I know that I love reading these trip reports so I wanted to post one to quickly discuss our recent trip to Aruba. I started churning about a year ago and have a taken a few small trips where we’ve used a hotel night here and a free flight there, but this was the first major trip that we have booked from this hobby. My wife and I are beach people from Orlando so this trip made sense for us. With other trips planned and limited PTO, we decided on 3 days. Getting there: We used 29,496 SW points plus the companion pass for two RT flights out of MCO for pretty specific dates. This was the worst redemption I’ve gotten from SW so far at 1.5 CPP (doubled w/the CP). We probably could have gotten a better price but we needed semi specific days. There’s also about $70 in taxes per person as well, which doesn’t help. The flight was a little less than 3 hours – not bad at all. The hotel: We stayed at the Hyatt Regency and Casino in Aruba by using the Hyatt card’s 2 free nights plus another 25K transferred from UR. When we arrived, we asked if there were any available upgrades and at first we were told that they were booked solid. The front desk agent walked away for a moment to grab our room keys but when she returned she let us know that we were being upgraded from the standard garden view to a deluxe full balcony ocean view! We had to come back since the room wasn’t quite ready but when we returned a different agent helped us and remarked that she had never seen this type of room given to someone as an upgrade. The room was incredible and made the trip so much better – there is just something about walking out onto your balcony and watching the sun set over the ocean. The value of this room for 3 nights + this hotel’s ridiculous resort fees for 3 days was $2,628. I valued the Hyatt 2 FN’s at 25K each (the cost of the room per night in points), so our CPP was 3.5. I think that would rival even Hyatt’s all inclusive redemption values! Misc/Total: We also used some miles from the Arrival+ to cover meals at the Hyatt and some cash from bank bonuses to cover outside costs. Total retail value of the trip would’ve been $4539 ($1,023 flights, $2,628 hotel, $888 misc costs while on the island) but we paid $208! In case anyone is interested, here are a few other notes from our trip that may help if anyone is thinking of heading down there in the future.
One small con for the resort is that there are definitely space issues and it is hard to get chairs by the pool/beach without paying extra or waking up early to claim a spot. This was not a big issue for us but it was still slightly annoying and would have been a big deal if we had planned to spend lots of time by the pool. Regardless of that issue, the views at the resort were stunning and the staff was very accommodating – it is definitely a top notch resort.
Definitely recommend taking a tour of the island. We went with a group that took us to places we would have never seen without them. More incredible views and maybe our favorite experience of the trip!
Food is pretty expensive on the island – we spent maybe $150/day and we were not going all out. If you ever go, I cannot recommend Wacky Wahoo’s enough – one of the best meals I’ve ever had!!
Hopefully you guys found this interesting/helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions and I’d be happy to answer. Didn’t post any pics but would be glad to if there is interest. And as always, thanks to this community for helping to make all of this possible!
Hello Aruba! My girlfriend and I will be visiting your beautiful island in February, staying for 7 nights at Rui Aruba Palace. Apart from drinking and eating our faces off, we are hoping to do some fun, off-resort activities. We are both 30 years old. We are interested in relaxing and exciting activities. I would love to do a private sailing tour, but we are also open to zip lining, para-sailing, checking out romantic or cool restaurants -- we are open to anything! We don't want to drop too much money, but we are willing to splurge if the activities are worth it. Any activity or company suggestions you could provide would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Edit - just returned and wanted to update the thread with our experience: My girlfriend and I had an amazing time spending the week in Aruba. The weather was perfect (~85 degrees and sunny every day), and there's always a breeze so it never feels too hot. Be warned, though, that the sun is VERY strong. I'm fair skinned, so I applied sunscreen like a maniac and got a little sun, but not enough to be harmful. The Riu Palace was wonderful. Staff is super friendly, the drinks are pretty good, and the food was surprisingly tasty. We upgraded to a ocean-front Jr. Suite which gave us a view of the pool and ocean. The bar is well stocked with soda, water, Balashi (local beer), and 4 different spirits in the liquor dispenser. Our balcony was great, with 2 pillars on each side to give it a more private feel. There are two casinos on property (one in each hotel)... they're OK, but who goes to Aruba for the sole purpose of gambling? We mostly played roulette. There are about 4 restaurant options that are all-inclusive, and 2 dining halls with a huge array of options. I was a big fan of the omelette and pasta stations. We tipped a good amount, but never had to carry our wallets with us. We locked those up, along with jewelry and passports, in the safe in our room. So if you're looking to relax, eat and drink, all-inclusive is a good option. I think there are only a few on the island, but I definitely recommend Riu. As for activities, we went off-resort to dinner at Atardi, which is located directly on the beach. It was really nice. The food was great, and the service was wonderful. We were a little bummed that the seafood options we chose had not been locally caught, but they were fresh nonetheless. We did a private sunset tour with Strea Charters. It was really romantic! And crazy comfortable. The boat has two huge benches with great cushions and pillows. I could have easily fallen asleep. Captain John and his First Mate Moses were incredibly accommodating, making us drinks and a delicious food spread, and they also gave us our alone time. I think it cost us around $500 total with tip, and it was totally worth it. We did the Jolly Pirate one morning, and that was a blast. We had a fun group aboard, and the staff was awesome. Drinks were OK -- nothing fancy, but got the job done. The morning cruise gave a lunch option which was nice. We stopped at 3 different locations to snorkel, and at the last stop they opened up the rope swing which was really fun. We will definitely do Jolly Pirate again next time we go back to Aruba. What else did we do... We got the "Moonlight" couples massage at Renova Spa at the Riu resort in the outdoor gazebo. It was really nice. We also went parasailing... well... I went parasailing, and it was a blast. We went tubing... that was fun. We also did Kukoo Kunuku, the party bus/bar crawl. This was a really good time, but we started kinda sober thinking there would be booze on the bus. This was not the case, but we made sure to catch-up to the rest of the patrons during the 4 bar crawl. So in closing, it was a great trip! Edit on update - spelling and formating
Hey Ya'll, I'm going to be visiting Aruba in May with the girlfriend for the first time and have a few questions regarding my stay and if I'm thinking through this trip fine. -We are fans of staying at airbnbs over hotels. It looks like there are airbnbs all over the island though. Is there anywhere in particular or any area of the islands I should look to stay/avoid? -We would love to rent a cajeep and roam around the island with it from our airbnb. I saw people liked Avi and More4Less from a quick search, just seeing if people had more opinions on which is easiest to access from airport? -We also would like to visit the resort/shopping/casino area throughout our stay. Is parking easy/reasonable with a jeep if we have to drive in to the area from where our airbnb is? -I saw somewhere that all beaches are public which is awesome. Since this is more of a romantic trip, would it be within reason to find some beaches where we can have, lets say, secluded intimate time? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions! Hoping for an amazing trip to Aruba!
Before going to Aruba I, like most people of my generation (late 20s), googled the crap out of Aruba. I especially googled what life outside of the resort/hotel zone is like. While there was lots of info on Aruba hardly any of it pertained to the non-resort life. Meaning, when people on forums ask "where do the locals eat", or "where can I get a reasonably priced meal", the answers given were absolutely given by people living the high life in Aruba. $30 entrees? The locals aren't eating there. And, if the place advertises itself as "where the locals eat!" (like Driftwood does), then that's not where the locals eat. That isn't to say that none of the locals eat there, as I'm sure many do. But when people from my generation ask "where do the locals eat?" they mean "where does the working class eat?". Now that I'm back from my short trip to Aruba, I feel like I have some info to share to others of my generation who aren't looking for a 5-star Aruban experience, but who are traveling on a shoestring, want to see Aruba without paying >$100 for a two hour tour in a 4x4 with six strangers, etc. First tip: Airbnb Hotels in Aruba are plentiful, and very nice. They're not even necessarily expensive. But Airbnb has penetrated Aruba and it's great. We were lucky to stay with a local who has an attached suite, rather than simply simply renting out their condo while they're away. As a result, we had locals (like, 365 days a year-type locals) feeding us info. Airbnb also kind of forces you outside of the hotel zone: we were a good 8-10 min drive away from the Highrise area, which helps when you're trying to be adventurous and explore the neighbourhoods. Our Airbnb hosts were very attentive, provided a lot of "gear", like a cool, beach chairs, maps, coupons, flippers, etc. They warned us when something went down on the island (we were there during the recent flash flood), and had ideas about how to get around. And of course, Airbnb is cheap, often come with kitchens, which allow you to head to the supermarkets and cook using local ingredients. Which brings me to the next tip. Tip two: Supermarkets Prior to arriving, whenever grocery shopping was mentioned in anything I googled it basically always referred to the large supermarkets, and especially Super Food. We went to Superfood and found the prices comparable to grocery prices in Canada (even after the conversion. Also note, we live in Victoria, BC). Items that were packaged (like cereal) were more expensive. Fruits (like limes) were ever so slightly less. And everything else (like meat and veggies) were about the same. And while Superfood was great, we found little to no reason to return; there are plentiful mini-marts and neighbourhood markets were everything was cheaper. There was nothing we needed that we couldn't find in these markets, from groceries to sunblock to booze to personal care products. I honestly don't think you need to bother with the large supermarkets, the little neighbourhood ones will do. If you're in the high rise zone, the closest one is at the Unicasa, beside the Wendy's. If you're anywhere else, there are lots. Tip three: Beaches The Palm Beach and Eagle Beach areas are indeed much fun. There's a lot going on, people to mingle with, booze everywhere, and happy hour is easy to find. If you're anything like us, we kinda didn't love that. We wanted more spacious beaches, with calmer atmospheres. In that case, allow me to suggest three spots. The first is just off the high rise beach zone. Heading towards the lighthouse, right after the casino on the left if a parking lot that was never ever full. The only people that seemed to park there were trucks with boat trailers. Park here and find a very peaceful beach with no rocks, and soft sand. It was a fabulous spot, with all the same view and sand quality of Palm Beach without any of the buzz and crap. Second, is a short walk from the lighthouse north, across the dunes, to an oddly shaped rock I doubt you could miss. When we first arrived there were some nudists there hanging out in what is clearly a secluded and rarely frequented spot. Water was clear, and the view was spectacular. Not to mention how good water feels after a 10 min walk through the desert sand dunes in a blazing sun. Third, is Daimari beach, which I'll say more about in the next tip... Tip four: Arikok Definitely worth the time. But also not something you have to rent jeeps for or take expensive atv tours. If you dedicate a day to Arikok (like, 8 am to 5pm) you can do all you need to. I'll tell you what we did on our "Arikok day", which was probably the highlight of our trip. First, recognizing that Arikok is a desert, we woke up early and drove to the main entrance to the park. We arrived exactly at 8:00am on a day that was slightly cloudy. Bought our wrist band and promptly exited the park the way we came. Leaving the park there's an immediate right that says "Daimari" onto a gravel/dirt road. We followed that until it intersected witha paved road and a sign saying that to the right is an entrance to Arikok. Down that road is the Shete entrance to Arikok. It allows you to turn a very long hike to the Natural Pool into a short hike. Hiking from Shete to Natural pool took 45min (and I am in no way in shape). We arrived just as the first tour left, allowing us full access to the pool with not another soul around for about and hour. Then, heading up the coast from the Natural Pool we hiked the 15 min to Daimari Beach, which was easily our favourite beach of the whole island. It is isolated, strikingly beautiful, unique in that the "shelf" that has been eroded in the middle divides the beach in two, and most importantly there was shade provided by the cliffs. This was vital, since by this time the sun was out in full force. Hiking became less than safe, so, we stayed, lounging at the beach, for hours waiting for the sun to go down a bit. This was wonderful. Shaded by the cliff, dipping in the slightly wavy ocean, in the beautiful location... Daimari is an Aruban paradise. Two tour companies took people here while we were there. They jumped off the cliffs and promptly left. For us, we drank 5L of water on this hike. As soon as 3:00 rolled around, we started to pack up and began our hike out (about 55min). Now, since we spent so long at Daimari we decided to do more Arikok the next day. We drove around to the south side of the island and the Vader entrance. We easily drove our small, compact rental car up the gravel road alongside the wind turbines (very impressive), and up to the Guadiriki caves. Spent some time there and continued up to the Fontein caves and Boca Prins. After returning, it was all basically just a couple hours; less than a half day. If we had planned our hike to be an hour or two quicker we likely could have done it all in a single day. Since we didn't drive all the way through the park's main road I can't speak to the drive-ability of it all. However, I do have some car tips! Tip five: Cars The rental companies, and the Arikok website, do a fair amount of fear mongering about the quality of the road that runs through the park (IMO). If I were to speculate, it would be because the nation's economy makes a fair amount of coin off of Jeep rentals, 4x4 tours and such. So, they would have you believe that travelling into Arikok with a compact car spells certain doom for your vehicle, and the rental agenies will warn you multiple times that if you have car damage or trouble that occurs within Arikok park, you are not covered at all, even if you purchased their limited liability coverage plan. So, I was pretty worried as well about road conditions but there was no need to be. Day two we drove our little compact rental through the road that runs from the California lighthouse, along past the dunes and down the North East coast, up to the chapel. It was slow going, to be sure, as we made sure to go at little more than the speed of a quick walk or slow jog. But at that speed all the bumps become easily managable and we didn't bottom out the car once. Similarly, driving the dirt road past the wind turbines in Arikok and up to Boca Prins was more than fine. It's like driving a country road in rural Alberta, in my opinion. Take it slow and you'll be golden. As long as I'm talking about cars, a few sub tips: they don't do as many lights in Aruba. Mostly round abouts. Might wanna brush up on round about etiquette before going if you're not familiar. The map that you get at the airport has common road signs on it! And while the road system on the ground looks complicated, with many un-named roads branching off of main routes, honestly, just worry about the main routes (of which there aren't many). Parking in ample pretty well everywhere, even downtown. It's cheap for pay parking where that's needed. No right turns on red lights. And finally, they do street lights on the same side of the intersection as where you stop, rather than opposite. So, you kinda have to lean forward to see the lights if you're in a low vehicle. Tip six: Eats I can't express enough how the most mentioned places were just tourist traps. Driftwood, Smokey Joe's, Wacky Wahoos: all very expensive. That isn't to say they're bad (we thought Wacky Wahoos was fabulous), but there not "where the locals/working class eat". The best (in terms of the matchup of quality and cost and authenticity) of these more expensive places that we went, we felt, was Red Fish. The catch of the day pan fried was delicious, and the local corn bread stuff they serve all over town was the tastiest at Red Fish as well. We never got to Zeerover's, sadly. I'm bummed about that. But the point is I can't comment on it. The best recommendation I have for those who want some real eats is to explore the 4A/B route. There are a lot of neighbourhood eats along that road that are fabulous. Fermin's BBQ was a highlight, where you could get a 2 person BBQ Platter with Yuca Frita (fucking YUM) for 34 Florins (whereas all those places mentioned about are usually 50 Florins or more per dish!). Buckets of six local beers for 25 Florins. It's great. The ambiance is fantastic, the locals chatty and open for conversation if you reach out. Just don't couple blocks south east from Fermin's is a small Columbian food diner kind of thing. Delicious arepas con queso. Had some chicharrón there that was as authentic as it gets. From there, I'd stress being brave and trying the food trucks. They mostly open after dark (I imagine because being inside one of those in the day would cook you), and there are dozens on every route. Since the water on the island is pristine (by the way, the water is pristine!) we didn't worry about getting sick, and we didn't. We tried some Dutch pancakes for what felt like was a dime, more Columbian food, some of the "snack" places (essentially you pick a filling and they put it in a hot dog bun), and some delicious burgers. I couldn't even tell you where these places were since we just drove by them and pulled over when we were hungry. But they're great! At these trucks we were paying 20-40 florins a meal for two people rather than 80-120 (or 140 at Wacky Wahoos. Ouch). Be brave and you'll be rewarded. Tip seven: Shopping Much the same thing applies to shopping. Now, I'm no shopper; that's my partners deal. But we did the High Rise mall area and found all the usual high-end brands: Pandora and a thousand other jewelers, Calvin K., whatever. And downtown at the "fashion capitol of the carribbean" we found Gucci and Mango and all the European brands. Whatever. The prices weren't any better than back home, so we were left asking "why?" Well, then we started going into other stores we found kicking around a little outside these zones. The most rewarding one (at least for her)? DShop. Good prices (slightly cheaper than home) and lots of variety with good quality and unique styles. Feel free to explore the local stores rather than just stampeding the big brands. Aruba's government has done a lot to encourage the local fashion industry, and it seems to be paying off. You can buy Prada back home. Random dump of tips! The rest of my tips don't have enough substance to equate to a whole section, so I'll just dump them here. Tip the bag boys/girls at the supermarkets. Chances are they don't have a wage and only make money based on tips. If you're gonna buy cherry tomatoes at Super Food, don't put them in a bag; they have designated plastic cups for those. Whatever produce you do get there, take it to a weigh station which will print a ticket with the price for you. Cereal is absurdly expensive at Superfood, as is milk and butter. The Cherry Limeade at Save Lots is delicious! We did not love Baby Beach by any strech of the imagination. In fact, most of the South East side of the island felt like it was all the rage once upon a time, and then it was overshadowed by the North West; many abandoned businesses and homes down there, but I wouldn't make a whole day of it. Interesting to see and worth just driving around. Bring water shoes. Especially if you're going to walk out to the shipwreck because there's some coral that stings out there. For Canadians, it cheaper to pay for stuff in Florins than USD. It is easy to get cash, especially if you bank with RBC or CIBC, as they have branches in Aruba! Buy lots of sunscreen. The aloe museum is very accessible and worth the trip. I preferred the beer Chill to the staple Balashi. Sunday and especially Monday, everything seems to be closed for most of the day. English is the lingua franca pretty well all over the toursit zones, as expected. But outside of that, while Enlgish is still very present, we found Spanish more useful. So, if you know Spanish then great! Oh, and Aruba is great! Enjoy.
Hi /poker, I plan to take my first vacation ever next year and I want to hit a beach where I can also play in some good poker games. I'm thinking I would like to go sometime in February since winter can be pretty draining in the northern US. Casinos are sometimes slightly cheaper to stay in because the resort assumes you're going to degen some of your money to them by the end of it anyway. Any suggestions on some nice places to go where I wouldn't spend above 200-250 a night on our room? I was looking at Aruba and it seemed decent but some of the rooms were more than I would like to spend? Also any advice on negotiating a good price on the room would be appreciated. I know this isn't the best place for this post but I figured some people here might actually have some decent advice. Thanks! EDIT: Looking for a place warm enough to swim in the ocean in February
Caribbean Vacation - Help with specific destination?
Hello, My wife and I are looking to take a vacation in late July or late August to a location most likely in the Caribbean. I'll be utilizing Marriott points and United miles for this trip (no shortage of either) but was trying to finalize a location. I was hoping anyone with experiences might be willing to provide their input with any of the locations we are looking at. I already have a Marriott category 9 certificate for 7 nights so with that being said the locations we were looking at are as follows:
Bahamas - The Cove Atlantis
Grand Cayman - Grand Cayman Marriott Beach Resort
US Virgin Islands (2) - Frenchman's Reef, or Frenchman's Cove
British Virgin Islands - Scrub Island Resort
Aruba (3) - Aruba Marriot & Stellaris Casino, Aruba Ocean Club, or Aruba Surf Club
It looks like I can get to all these destinations with United (although BVI will be a long day of travel). We're not looking for a ton of nightlife (clubs, bars etc) but would definitely like day activities (snorkling, hiking, shopping, site seeing, beaches). But also very important to us is dining. We're not opposed to going out to a lot of one off places and avoiding hotel restaurants if possible. Can anyone provide any insight with their experiences as to how any of these locations may be? Everywhere I look I get conflicting information and not sure if we would be making the right choice or not. I've heard Atlantis is expensive and very resort like. I've heard some good and bad about Frenchman's reef and Frenchman's Cove in St. Thomas but I hear you can easily go to gorgeous St. John or even to BVI from St. Thomas. I really appreciate any help and thank you in advance.
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